What's Good with John & Joyce: EP 14 - We've All Been There!
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What's Good with John & Joyce: EP 14 - We've All Been There!

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The studio is looking really good today.
They didn't really.

Nice job here.

Yeah, well, what's good today is I look
forward to this each and every week.

I was hanging out with you and, sharing.

And by the way, thank you so much.

In case you're just tuning in,
what's good with John and Joyce?

And we focus on silver linings.

What's good we try to stay away from
the negativity is so much of it out there

in the real world.

When you listen to this show, exactly.

When you listen to this, watch it.

We just want to focus on positivity.

I know it sounds Kumbaya.

We've said that before, but, you know,
it's, I think the world needs it.

That's what I'm hearing from,
you know, viewers and listeners.

Anyway. Yeah, I agree.

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So I'm John Cadillac Seville from iHeart
Radio and John Seville

Entertainment, and Joyce, I'm just Joyce.

No, Joyce.

Come on.

You're you're you're
you're a world renowned author.

You're a therapist. You're a supermom.

You're a loyal friend. All that nice.

You're a great baker.

Oh, you know,
I'm also a person who found interviews.

I love them, I love them.

I didn't know I had, you know,

they're beautiful.

I know you're very color coordinated.

You know, you always, you know.

Yeah.

Amazing thing this morning

because let's just say
even the undergarments are pink.

Yeah.

You know,

interesting about we talked about visuals
before when people watch

and the majority of the people I talk
to listen more than they

watch and talk about their
they're not like yours anymore.

Like, listen to the podcast right then
and watch it.

They're usually,
you know, on on the treadmill.

They're in the car.

Always curious
about where people are viewing from

speak spake Leon Spinks, the old boxer.

Right.

Leon Spinks, she's sparkly shoes.

Yeah. You know where I got them?

Yeah.

There's was an old song back in the day
called Pink Shoelaces, which I, we were

talking about author Dodie Stevens,
and I haven't said that name in 100 years.

It just came out all right. Right.

Because as radio geeks,
we always talk in song titles.

We're up at the radio
station, we'll have a conversation,

but we'll use song titles
as the conversation.

It's, you know, just inside geek stuff.

Yeah,

I know there's a song coming
through my head lately.

Going on in my head, little Anthony.

Oh, let's see.

Oh. You sure you.

But it's not someone I've heard in years

and years, and it's playing in my head.

Jane. Oliver.

Jane. Oliver.
I've heard. I've heard of her.

Yeah.

She's a great singer, great vocalist,
very unique.

Her songs, it's a little haunting.

A serial affair in a sense.

Not quite anything real, but,
you know, different.

Not quite that,

but she's saying I.

Oh, the Rockville rocket.

Connecticut's own Gene Pitney.

Love, love loved him.

Yes. You know he's he's wonderful.

I'm laughing about it because I worked,
a couple of shows with them,

and I kept saying to everyone,

I think I'm, I'm never nervous
meeting a celebrity.

I just never was.

You know, I get excited, but not nervous.

But I was watching.

I can't tell how many people around me.

He's a legend.

Yes he is.

A lot of the people didn't know who.

Right?

Right.

And I said, you don't know him.

He's from Connecticut.

Yeah. You know, he's he's a legend, right?

So, yeah, that was a
that was a fun night.

But the thing with the Jane Oliver's song,

as she's singing his song,

he comes on in the bridge. Wow.

And this song is half head,
half heartache. Yes.

Beautiful ballad.

It builds. It builds.

And I had,

I had a really profound feeling.

Listen, boy,
this music for you has feelings.

It really does.

And if you're not familiar
with Gene Pitney, those of you

watching and listening right now just,

you know, Google and go to Spotify,
Pandora, iTunes, check him out.

An amazing voice, a really great talent.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

That was a movie.
A Town Without Pity, too.

And I guess it must have been his vocals,
right?

Right. Yeah.

So yeah, that song really got to me
and brought out a lot.

And, I you have a lot of grief. Yeah.

You could,
you could tell with Joyce music.

So our passion, you know, I mean, just,
you know, we we go down that rabbit hole

really quick, you know, you just mention
the song and bam, there we go.

Yeah, that you guys do too.

I think everybody does that.

Yeah.

So, anyway, it was
I felt it was cathartic in a lot of ways.

I don't know why
that song showed up in my mind.

And then I put it on YouTube

and you don't see,
you know, the visuals, just the audio.

And I love the bridge.

So have, have and have and one more song
I have to mention

Gene Pitney, my all time
favorite, Every Breath You Take.

Oh every, every breath you take.

It just goes, you know, it starts off
really slow and then it crescendos.

You know, that was that was another song.

That's a good point.

But every breath you take with you right
police, Every breath You take,

which was the biggest song of the 1980s.

The number one song in the entire decade,
which we play on the River.

1059 she plug it singing

yeah, you know, it's like Barbra Streisand
singing people.

The reason why he hates singing that song
is because it's.

I mean, what's the stalking song,

right? It's a stalking song.

But I didn't take it as that.

Back when he first recorded I took it.

I was very passionate.

Right?

Like, every step you take, I am watching.

Oh I know, yes, it it.

And it's like a song by
the song by R.E.M.

called This Goes Out to the one I love.

A lot of times I meet together,
I get together with Brian Rooms

to talk about music
because I deejay a lot of weddings

and they'll say, I want that song.

I say, you know,
that's really not a love song.

It's a song about, you know, betrayal.

What is this?

This one goes out to the one
I love by R.E.M.,

one of my favorite bands of the 80s
is about betrayal, and people just hear

this goes out to the one I love,
like a request, but it's not a love song.

Not a love song at all.

Like every breath you take.
You don't want that.

Maybe at the divorce party

you could play that at the wedding.

Because I remember someone telling you
that,

I don't think.

Just likes the song.

That's right, that's right.

What are we supposed
to be talking about today, anyway?

We lose our train of thought here.

Love talking about music.

Yeah. Me too, me too.

And thank you for playing Billy Squier.

And we're on the radio this morning.

Yes. For you.

Music is Billy Squier.

The Beatles, if you throw that.

Yep, I am.

Yeah, we play a little bit of both on on
that on our station to an early Beatles.

Right.

Yeah.

Anyway, anyway,
some people have said to me

and I thought this could be
a good show topic today that,

you know, choice.

I have tried everything.

I've meditated.

I have all kinds of self-help books
and I pray

I don't see any change in my life.

So if, if you dig a little deeper,

I've found that the meditation
is not something they do every day.

It's only sporadically.

And I think you can address
the prayer part of it.

And maybe the you expect

the answer to come right away,
or the exact answer that,

well, Joyce, we live in a world where
everybody wants it yesterday, you know,

and so many people think successful
people come out of a genie bottle.

You know, all of a sudden
they're successful.

They see someone like you,
you know, who's done

so many wonderful things, and they watch
American Idol, they watch The voice,

and they think all of a sudden
these people are up on stage

and they're getting all this,

all these accolades,
but they don't realize all the rejection,

all the people who told them
they couldn't do it on the way up,

all the clubs they played, all the people
that booed them, all the people said,

you coming from a small town and,
you know, delight Arkansas.

I mean, who cares about you?

What makes you think
you're going to make it?

There's always those negative voices,
and most people give up

just when they're in the threshold
of making it.

But to address your point about that,
they sporadically do

things
is something we need to do consistently.

I think the most

I think the greatest trait of anybody
successful is consistency.

Show up
even when you don't want to go out there

and do the things you don't want to do,
even when you don't want to.

And there are so many things
I don't want to do many times,

but I get up,
I want to go to the gym every day,

but I go to the gym every day
because I know it's good for me.

It's good for my insides, it's
good for my outsides.

It helps,
it makes me feel better about myself.

But so many people, I want to lose 25
pounds, and I want to lose it

because I'm going to be in a wedding
in a month, and I got to lose 25.

No, it doesn't work out that way.

You have to take time. You.

It's discipline.

It's plodding along.

It's very unsexy to be successful.

And that's why, unfortunately, they talk

about the 95 percentiles
or the 5% to 5% of the people,

the ones 95% of the people who work
for 5% of the other people,

because 5% of the people go out there
and they just they hit it.

Yeah, yeah.

I just put
I would just say be disciplined, too

consistent and disciplined.

And I fall short
all the time. We're human.

There are so many times where it's like,
oh, I wish it would happen quicker, but

doesn't, you know,

things tend to happen
when you are out there out and about.

And I remember my mother's heart
after a wonderful, wonderful man.

Doctor solution.

Doctor fresh,

Bruce Barouch I think sure.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm not man.

And he said to me
one day when people go to visit,

even if you're going to McDonald's
or you go to a bank,

you don't drive through,
get out of the car, engage with people.

That's what helps your heart.

And and improves your life.

It not only are you walking right
but you're actually speaking to someone.

You may see someone in there that you know
and you do that all the time. John

I know we are out and you are engaging
with people and having conversations.

So when somebody prays
and let's say you're praying,

for their business or whatever,

but if you
if you stay in a small little area

and you don't get out and express
that to someone else

when they say, I have an idea, right,

I've got a friend
or I've got and, whatever.

In fact,
I heard someone speaking yesterday,

when they lived in L.A.

They never interacted with people

because you're driving your car
all the time.

But when they moved to New York,
they started going out to a Broadway

play and having dinner and having coffee,
because you can do it by yourself.

But eventually they met a lot of people.

Sure that so I do think that getting back

to the original question, so people had

is what you said,
first of all, don't give up.

And maybe not all

players are the answer
the way you want them to be.

Well, Garth Brooks
had a song unanswered Prayers.

I thank God for unanswered prayers

because God am I.

You know, the God universe,
whatever you call it, I call it God.

God knows best.
He knows what's best for us.

And many, many times

things don't happen at that time
because it's not the right time.

If something happened
at that time you tried to force it,

it would be more of a burden
than a blessing. So.

So we everything we've heard that time
that's saying everything happens

in God's timing, right?

Timing is everything,
even from a secular standpoint.

If you want to put God in the equation.

But too many times
we force things in our own time

and it ends up,
you know, not being exactly.

And I think our maker
wants the best for us.

So we just have to be patient. Patient.

And it's not easy, but just go out there
and be the best where you are now.

If you don't like the job you're in now,
be grateful for that job.

Be the best person I don't like.

You know, bagging up groceries at,
at a grocery store.

Well, be the best friggin bagger ever.

Yeah, and talk to people.

Look them in the eye. How is your day?

You know?

And can I help you
with this, this and that?

And then you engage, like you
said, in conversation,

and then eventually that person might say,
you're really good at what you do.

What's your long term goal?
What would you like to do?

Well, I like to do so and so well.

I just happen to know a person

to address
your point, engaging a conversation.

And everybody knows somebody who knows
somebody who knows somebody.

So put it out in the universe.

So right.

Yeah.

I have a habit of speaking with cashiers.

I love cashiers, I don't hold,

right.

But, yeah, I love speaking especially

to young people
and who don't seem very friendly.

And I've met a few of them,
and I just asked a person

so what's your so what's your
what's your goal like?

What do you love doing?

I love I love the way you say that.

I love it.

Yes you do.

That's a gift you have to sing.

So now every time she sees me, she waves.

Yeah. Isn't that great?

Yeah.

It's like the gym I go to.

And I see a couple of these guys behind
the counter, and it's boring for them.

They're just standing there and.

And it's like they're there
for eight hours shifts.

And every time I walk in there,
I always say hi to them, call them by name

because people love to hear their names
saying, I really appreciate you guys.

You know, you're always so friendly
when people walk in.

I like the way I notice from a distance.

The other day,
the way you talk to that elderly person.

I thought that was really nice.

And then I'll kind of lean into him
and say, so what's your like?

You said, what's your long term goal?

I guarantee you that when you asked them
and I asked them,

were were among
the very few that ever asked him.

So what's your long term goal?

What do you want to do with your life?

Because I think most people,
especially I hear

what you're hearing
is you're complaining about the price.

Yes, I understand that.

But the cashier can't now, therefore.

So you just stirring up
the pot of negativity.

Which brings me back to

why you

feel you're doing everything
and nothing is happening,

so you can't do short term

prayer thinking positive, positive.

It's the moment you wake up

to walking down the street,

engaging with people.

Don't engage.

And, this.

You know, the prices are high.

Politics and blah blah.

Don't even engage in that because

then it robs you of that precious mind.

That's right.

That energy is not there.

You can't connect where you want to be.

It's like energy attracts like.

That's right. That's why it's for feather.

Flock together, get rich to forage.

Important.

All those things are true for
what's good for the goose

is good for the gander.

I don't know why I threw that in there.

I heard somebody say that the other day.

I was like, whoa,
I have to use that somewhere.

You gave me an invoice,

and I'm trying to think

it so I feel like that.

But but it is being, you know,

consistent, being disciplined,
putting yourself out there.

I love that to do.

Maybe initially it feels that way, but
the more you do it, the easier it becomes.

And then what happens is

then you feel that negative energy
from other people

and you think, oh, I'm
stepping away, right?

Right.

And you maybe forgot
that you were one of them,

and now you're somebody different,

and you like that feeling,
you like this feeling of saying

instead of saying like,
why is this happening?

Just to say,
you know what, it may be raining,

but you know, we need the rain.

It's good for the earth.

Yes, there could be flooding.

There's always been flooding.

Isn't it great
that we have people who are helpers?

There's so many ways
to turn terrible things around.

Tornadoes that have wrecked and
and killed people.

I mean that has always
taken place for sure.

But you can't sit there
and just dwell on that.

You can think about cleaning helpers,

you can think about
the great caring people

you know, you hope will be building homes
and and all of that.

But, and then that will get you started on
we shouldn't be knowing the news.

Oh, no, no, no, don't do it.

I'll check you in 20 minutes.

During the course of the day.
It's all run on loop.

It's right on loop.

No too much negativity.

Community. Community based.

You know
what's going on in your home, right?

How can you help out?

We can't. It's impossible
to help everyone.

You can send a general prayer out
every night, which I do

for the whole world.

Healing for every leader of the world

to be helpful and let it go.

Right? You know, that could be your part.

If you want to send money to the Red Cross
Salvation Army, God bless you.

Do that.

You know, if that makes you feel good,
if it makes you feel better,

put it out into the universe.

At the end of the day,
just pray, pray, pray.

And then you're like this.

I'm doing my best
and you take care of the rest.

What if a guy with a big,
you know, enjoy your life?

Exactly. Right? Right.

But but you're it's so easy
to get baited in the negativity.

People do it all the time, right?

The bait and, you know, click bait that.

Oh, I can't believe you're putting out
all that little sake.

Rest in peace.

And it's someone famous, right?

You know, they're not dead.
I mean, why why?

Oh, she died or he died and it's like, no.

Yeah.

I just want you to click on the news of
my death has been greatly exaggerated.

Connecticut's own Mark
Twain said that, didn't he?

Who? Hey, back in the day, Mark
Twain and I were good

buddies, hanging out on the river.

Well.

You're.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or bad
thing is, it depends on who you talk to.

Your Joyce. My goodness.

Right.

But the whole thing is just,
you know, be patient.

It's really hard because.

Because we want we want things now.

We see so many people around us.

We base
our well-being on likes on social media,

or somebody else is doing something
really well.

You people have a tendency sometimes, you
know, to get a little envious or jealous.

Remember, there's enough success
to go around for all of us.

So I rather cheer for people
and it's a good feeling to cheer them.

No, you don't know their story.

They just pop like I said it and
just all of a sudden become successful.

But cheer them on
and you feel better about yourself

rather than trying to knock people down.

Knock people down.
And we know people like that.

Oh, no, they probably know somebody.

Oh, they oh,
they probably had plastic surgery.

You know, there's right

they want to rock, but they want of
or somebody works out really hard.

Well, they're probably just genetics.
They were born that way.

No, I mean celebrate people's hard work,
celebrate them.

Right? Right.

It makes a big difference.

It does. And when you compliment
that person, you probably made their day.

If you see somebody who's done very,
very well, compliment them.

I'm very big on that energy flow.

Yeah, you do that, it bounces back.

It does.

Yeah.

Like a rubber ball puncture or boomerang.

Like a boom.

Like a boomerang out that echo.

Oh. Like in the mount.

Echo echo echo echo

you everybody I fired up today.

Joyce Farnam is fired up.

You know, my my wife said
it's a good thing that you don't do drugs.

Drink.

All right,

then you know, never have, you know, but,
I guess you can count coffee as a drug.

You can't.

You technically, caffeine
is that good because there a

I guess my grandson calls my Snapple a,

Right, right.

Yeah.

But what's your favorite drug?

Love is a drug.

Like the old song by Roxy Music.

Love is a drug that I'm thinking of.

Okay, so that one that

music.

Yeah. We were playing that song.

A player back in the day
when you and I were there together.

Love is a drug.

There's another one
you can look up out there.

Yeah. No.

Well I mean I apologize.

Everybody's watching and listening today
because I'm all over the friggin map.

I'm like you know squirrel duh
duh duh duh.

So my wife says,
can you focus on one thing?

You know, it's

yes, you can, focus on the positive.

Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

So what we say to people who say

that they're going through a real
tough time and,

they can't seem to get to that, I think.

I think we should just empathize
with them.

The last thing people want to do
is be judged

and this and that, say, listen,
I know how you feel.

I felt the same way.

And I still do feel the same way at times.

But you just keep doing what you're doing.

If it feels right in your heart
and it's something

you really want to go for and do it,
you keep firing away and doing it.

B b bloom where you're planted.

When were you planted? Right now.

And even if it's not where you want to be

and be grateful for that
because gratitude is riches

and the more grateful you are,

the more good things are going to happen
in your life.

I found that in my life.

But you know, let's face it,
I mean, it's not all Pollyanna here.

There are days when I'm frustrated
and I'm sure you are.

It's like, I wish something would happen
quicker than this.

Or oh, man, I didn't see that coming.

Because, I mean, life
throws your curveballs all the time,

but it's all about how you respond to it,
you know?

I mean, everybody watching and listening
right now, you know, it's

we were never promised a free ride
in this world.

You know, our maker said that,
you know, you will have trouble, but

I will always be with you.

And there's always there's
always an escape hatch somewhere, or,

you know, whether we take it or not,
that's up to us.

And what I've learned
during my darkest times in life,

and there have been many
and that's where the richness is.

And I've learned to be quiet during
those times, not complaining and just

going inward as to why this is happening,

whether it's an illness
I've been through or death.

It's just a time to get quiet.

And however you do that,
whether it's in prayer

or reading or watching a movie,
maybe crying,

even just,

there's there's a reason for that.

And that's where,

I think like these deep faith it

if even if faith could be a lot of things,
it doesn't have to be, you know,

a belief in anything except,

things will get better.

Stays dark for ever.

Even people who've gone through.

I think the worst tragedy
is losing a child.

Many of them rise up and start

foundations and charities
or they support others

and they take that painting
and they use it for good adversity.

They take adversity
and use it into an opportunity.

And then they,
then they can bless other people.

So when somebody else goes that
through that horrible situation,

they can pat their shoulder or give em a
hug and say, listen, I know how you feel.

I've been there and look.

And if you're in a really good place,
I came out pretty good

because they say that every setback
is really a setup for something better.

You know?

Regardless, you may not see that when
you're going through a tragedy you lost.

I mean, no
parent wants to outlive their kids.

I never had kids of my own.

I have a beautiful stepdaughter.

But I have lost a spouse.

I know you've lost a spouse.

But. So we know what pains like.

But everybody watching and listening
right now is not exempt from that.

If you haven't gone
through that pain, you will,

if you live,

if you're
lucky enough to live long enough,

the downside is someone's gonna die.

Exactly.

And I celebrate every wrinkle,
every this and that.

Because it means that I'm still alive.

That I'm still made it.

I'm still up today.

Yeah, yeah, I'm just like that.

Then I have days like, I'm getting,

Yeah. We all feel that way.

I feel them.

Yeah, yeah.

So I would say take a deep breath, relax
your shoulders.

You remember every day.

And I have to remember
you should do those breathing exercises.

The end of these podcasts
every now and then.

Breathing or the body exercises.

You belly breath.

Think like yourself, like a Raggedy
Ann doll sitting in a chair.

And that relaxes all your muscles
because you'll be surprised.

I am surprised to

how many times during the day
my shoulders start creeping up to me. You,

know, and it's not because
you're trying to do trap exercises either.

Ha! Hahaha.

Right.

Just, just relax your shoulders,
take a deep breath, and know that this too

shall pass.

Yeah.

You know, I mean,
I was working in a restaurant years ago.

Oh my gosh.

And the summers were really like chicken,
especially down along the shoreline.

And we were working so hard and the owner,

was very Zen like a wonderful person.

And she said, remember, Joy,

you can't stop time soon in the evening
and you'll be home

and you'll be in your bed,
and this will be over,

from this period, a lot of wisdom there.

I forget her saying, yeah.

So when I feel like
I'm having a rough day,

I then think about this day with so many.

Right.

And I would have made it through. Yeah.

And it depends how
I want to make it through.

And those are the days
you really look forward.

You look at that bed
and it looks so good. You do.

You just get in that bed
and you kind of put the pillow.

I mean, laying the pillow,
put the blankets over your head

if you want,
and then you wake up the next day.

And if it's a rainy day,
the sun still shining.

Yeah. The sun's still shining.

We just don't see it at that point.

Know all the time that someone complains.

If you see those clouds
above that sunshine, you look right.

Absolutely.

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hanging out with you
and I pray for you and your family

and you know, and your families too.

Yeah.

Till next time. Bye.

Bye bye.

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Creators and Guests

John Saville
Host
John Saville
Shortly after John graduated from Southern Connecticut State University, he landed his first job in radio. The Program Director gave him some of the best advice he has ever received. He said, “the Broadcasting business is very fickle, you can be here today and gone tomorrow; so you should have a Plan B.” John listened and the next day he dipped into his savings and bought his first sound system. Within two weeks, he was DJing his first party. That was over 25 years ago!
Joyce Logan
Host
Joyce Logan
Joyce holds a Doctorate in Metaphysical Philosophy from the American Institute of Holistic Theology and certification as a Hypnotherapist from The National Guild of Hypnotists in NH. She founded “The Wellness Center” in Connecticut, where she dedicated many years to assisting individuals with anxiety disorders and panic attacks, equipping countless others with effective coping mechanisms for everyday stressors.
David Chmielewski
Producer
David Chmielewski
David started his video career in the early 1990s working on video crews as an independent contractor for such companies as Martha Stewart Living, IBM and Xerox. After graduating Southern Connecticut State University with the degree in Corporate Communications, David continued his video production career and accepted a position at WFSB in Hartford, CT. Within a few years the news and production studios became his charge and David designed, installed and maintained the televisions sets for the various programs at the station. At the end of 2013 David founded DirectLine Media, a video production company that specializes in creating memorable and compelling video content for businesses.
Stefania Sassano
Editor
Stefania Sassano
Stefania's acting journey began as early as the fourth grade, where she took on the role of Scarlett O'Hara in a stage production of Gone With the Wind. This early experience sparked a lifelong passion for the arts. With a background in musical theater fueled by her love of music and singing, Stefania stepped into larger roles, such as Fraulein Kost in Cabaret during her sophomore year at the University of New Haven. This performance earned her a nomination for the prestigious Irene Ryan Acting Award at the Kennedy Center American College Theater Festival—an honor she would receive again in her junior year.