What's Good with John & Joyce: Ep 32 - I Haven’t Got A Clue!  Murder & Mayhem at WoodWinds!
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What's Good with John & Joyce: Ep 32 - I Haven’t Got A Clue! Murder & Mayhem at WoodWinds!

Hey, here
we go again. There. Joyce. Henry.

See you again.

So nice to see you. It's
nice to see her again.

And John Cadillac
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I mean, just, I wish you could hear
some of the conversations we had off here.

Then again, maybe not.

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But I'd like to introduce
our two esteemed guests here.

Don has been part of the Connecticut
theater.

Don Ron Deanie.

Right. Don, we're talking about your kids.

How amazing they are as well.

But Don has been part of the Connecticut
theater scene for over 30 years,

performing with groups across the state,
numerous Neil Simon productions,

including barefoot in the Park,
just saw the original a couple nights ago

with Robert Redford
and Jane Fonda was so good.

I love when they go up the stairs
and you're out of breath, you know?

Yeah, you know the oxy blues last of the
Red Hot Lovers, prisoner of Second Avenue.

He later joined Aspen Dream Productions,
where he was cast as father of Lasky

and their comedy wedding

show For Better or for Worse, a role
he played for ten years.

And for the past decade, he's
taking center stage.

Is Uncle Franco a role
he calls the highlight of his career?

Epsilon. Welcome. Thank you. Yes.

And right to your right hand side,
we have Christopher Bethune.

Hey, Chris.

Good to see you, buddy. See you as well.

And Christopher, assistant director
at ADP, a professional model.

He is as well with a master's

degree, has worked on stage and film
in both Connecticut in New York at ADP.

Now that's an an acronym
for for Century Dream Productions.

Just one to make sure
that we all knew that to folks,

it was for the audience edification.

I just want to get that clarify right.

But ADP, he was honing his craft
as a director of original plays,

using theater as a way to challenge
participants and help them grow stronger.

Now, his distinctive style
and uncompromising approach has earned him

the admiration and respect of everyone
at ADP, where his charisma

and he's got charisma
on overload continues to inspire Don

Christopher, welcome to

What's Good with John and Joyce,
available on all streaming platforms.

Now I can throw this.
Thank you. Happy to be here.

I'm at to pay whoever did that by over me.

Oh, that was good
You wrote that, didn't you? Yeah.

You know, secret secrets.

You know, I got the the pleasure
to see so many shows. Yes.

And did you direct?

Yeah.

Like all the ones that.

Well,
I thought it would once in Branford,

so I did directed one at the woodwinds
in Branford.

Janice, is she's the,
the creator of Asman

Dream Productions, and,
we're really under her umbrella, so.

Janice. Louise.

Luckiest.

Yeah, I know what her resume is amazing.

So she's amazing.

Really amazing.

She has a wonderful eye for talent.

Yeah. Right.

Yes. Oh, yeah.

Wonderful. Yeah. No question.

Yes, it does know.

Hey, it ain't bragging if it's fat.

Yeah, right.

I like I like that, you know, I,
I just want to slip in a little story

about Janice because in 2006, Twilight

movies, Twilight books were very,
very big.

That whole vampire series.

And I called her and I said,
we're going to do this event here.

By any chance,
can you have a couple of actors play

Bella and Edward
and do some scenes throughout it?

And she came down and she looked
at the place and she read the books.

So there were two out.

She said, let me read them,
let me get a feel for this.

And boy, did she pull that off.

It was spectacular. Not easy either.

Not all that wasn't easy, but it was.

It was great.

But, I want to talk about you. Job.

When did you first first fall in love
with acting, don't you know?

Well, I got involved
because of my nephew, Phillip Vitro.

He was always involved in acting
since he was in middle school.

And he got to the point
where he was directing plays for different

theater groups around the state.

And he used to see how dangerous I was
at family gatherings with a microphone.

And you
say, Uncle Dan, you got to try this.

You got to try this. I don't know.

I had too much time, too.

So anyway, he was directing The Mystery
of Edwin Drood in Clinton,

and somebody backed out

with, like, three weeks before the play,
and it was only six lines.

So I said, okay, I'll do it.

Well, in the next three years.

I did nine plays.

In the next five years I did 12 plays.

I really got the bug,
but I didn't start till I was 49.

Yeah, yeah, three years ago.

Almost.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I mean, you I'm talking to you off
camera too.

I mean, you just really have
a great personality.

You really have a command of the room.
You come in, and he does.

I like both of you.
Just the way you communicate.

Sean, wait till you see him.
Because I know you're.

I go to the Halloween show.

I. I can't wait on woodwinds.

And by the way, woodwinds is a sponsor
of what's good with John and Joyce.

Thank you. Tony.

Yes, yes.

And, this is the first time
they're doing a Halloween show there.

So we'll have all that information,
you know, on there.

But when Don is in character,

I, number one,
feel like I have to kiss the ring.

Yeah. And.
No, I know, and I'm not kidding.

I get a little scared to quite you
because you are in character. Yes.

And you know that you know, it's it's
always fun to play the bad guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Every actor relishes that. Don't get.

Yeah, yeah, I really do. Oh, yeah.

Are you going to give us a little hint
of, of your character at all?

I mean, I mean, obviously you're not in
costume per se, but like, vocal theatrics.

Well, you know,
Chris here, he wasn't too smart.

And his first IQ test came back negative.

His parents knew they had a problem.

That's trying.

He's trying hard to improve himself.

He just completed a very difficult
jigsaw puzzle.

Only took them three days.

Yeah, the box said 2 to 3 years,
Yeah, yeah, I got it.

I got it.

Oh, man. That's great.

The other half of that joke,
I can't tell.

Okay.

At least not in this podcast. Right?

Because we don't do any editing here.

This is warts and all,
and everything is what's good.

So that's good.

We talk or we talk about that.

So, Christopher, I don't think
I read in the bio I know you did modeling.

Yeah.

And directing acting so I do I've, I've,
I've been acting for over ten years.

I've always desire
to share with the world some of my gifts.

And just being under ADP,
I got a chance to do that.

Especially when we talk about, you know,
the, the show coming up on Halloween,

the interactive, immersive dinner theater
show to where we're always in character.

So, one thing that I really love
is just being able to

be Uncle Franco's bodyguard.

So my character is molded
Marcello to muscle.

And yes, I have,
you know, he's all muscle, no brains. So,

so it's a it's a fun.

It's a fun opportunity.

But,
I just love acting, and I feel as if,

you know, we're put on this earth
for a short period of time.

And while we're here, we have gifts that
we could share with everyone, you know.

So that is what drew me into acting.

I just love that we talked about that
all the time, though.

We just did a lot there. And bless people.

I love to make people laugh.

Yeah, especially in this world.

Now I live for the exact negativity.

So much to business and I agree,
get people to escape for a while.

Like with what's happening at woodwinds
on Halloween night.

And the thing is, you say interactive.

So we're sitting there in the audience
enjoying this.

What are we going to expect there?

Well, the the unexpected.

I guess a good answer.

It's show is based, somewhat on the,
opening of my nightclub.

My way.

Yeah.

That's why when we come, we come with
a DJ and there's dancing and singing.

It's a full night of entertainment.

The people who come aren't
coming to see a show, per se.

They're coming to the grand opening
of this nightclub. Exactly.

And when we do the wedding show,
they're coming to a wedding.

You're guests at a wedding.
They're not coming to see a show.

Yeah, and they're treated
as guests at a wedding.

And I owe a lot to woodwinds
because my daughter

was married there
with 270 people as guests.

Yeah, yeah,
I think I'm still paying for that.

But for us and our DJ business was
the first DJ business to play woodwinds.

You the the second. Wow.

First or second, when they opened up
100 years ago and just I love the place.

I mean,
they really know how to do the thing.

You right here and I'm
so glad it's going to be at woodwinds.

Yes, I am too because I live a minute
and 37 seconds away.

Oh, you're
that's how you live for a while. Yeah.

Because I know
that our podcast goes global.

So some people want to come
in, you know, from Bolivia or or Spain or.

Yeah, you're going to have to get there,
you know, travel.

You know, what's so great about,
you know, the theater in general

is that when I think of that room
filled with people, because I'm usually

standing somewhere in the background,
kind of overseeing it

that you're from,
the people are from every belief,

whether it's religious or political,
whatever.

But they're all having a great time
and they're laughing.

And a lot of times different people
sit at a table,

they don't know each other,
and they get to know each other.

So yeah, it's a beautiful thing
that takes place.

We love to go table to table and converse
with you.

Yeah. Get them involved with the show.

Yeah.

You know, well, it's an icebreaker too

because so many people go
they're a little bit uptight first.

You know,
if they don't know people at that table

and then you go out to the table,
people start talking

and they find something, a point of
interest and bam, you off to the races.

And one of the great things
is that each of our actors, who they come

with a background story, you know,
everyone has some kind of relationship

with Franco,
whether you love them or hate them.

You know, especially with this show
that we're doing.

I haven't got a clue.

It's a it's another murder mystery show.

So with that being said, you never know.

It's a Halloween whodunit.
So who who did it?

You have so many people who are here that,

oh has a have a relationship with Franco.

Why would they want Franco dead?

So, you know, when when we do the immerse
and like being immersed in it

or that portion of it, people
are like wearing character from

I would say probably of the show stars
Essex Warren character star in that,

you know, to an afternoon, you know
and we're going through our run through.

We're preparing, you know,
we're making sure that we're sharp

because you guys deserve a show in which,
you know, we're not going to have,

you know, we're not going
to, you know, give you half of it.

You know, we're going to give you our all
every time.

I love the way you say that
because people are working hard.

Yeah.

Your money is too much month
at the end of the money.

Yeah. Somebody takes holidays, right.

And they go out there
and they're going to get a show. Yes.

Do you get their entertainment business?

We leave our own, feelings aside,
if we're having a really bad day,

exact people are going to entertainers
for escapism.

Yeah. And you keep that in mind.

And I love what you said right there.

It's all about the people in the seats.
It is?

Yeah it is.

Janice has gotten
some really incredible letters

from people
who have come to our shows. Yeah.

And thanked us
for actually resurrecting them.

Back to the world of happiness.

Let me resurrect you.

Yeah, yeah,
I remember I had, we had a show to where,

Uncle Franco, a mode of muscle dance
with this lady at the,

It was a, senior living facility
that we had.

Did a show at, and she came up to us
after the show was over.

She said this was the first time
I had danced since my.

Since my husband passed away.

Yeah, yeah, she actually actually started
crying when we were dancing.

Yeah.

She said this is the first time she danced

with anyone
since her husband passed away. Yeah.

First time she ever danced. Anyone
other than that in her house?

Other than her house?

Probably saying yourself,
this is why we do what we did

today is actually pretty memories.

Exactly. Yes, yes.

You know, we're not all the
there's such a big genre of actors around

and if someone's at like a Harrison
Ford level,

you know, he can't reach the people
like you're reaching them now.

Yeah.

So it's all meant to be.

You don't.

But when you talked about.

I haven't got a clue.

Does that mean
one of us could be the killer?

Don't worry.

Anybody at any time. You never know. Or.

And my wife might say after she's watching
this. Haven't got a clue.

You go. That's your theme.

No, I right,

well, definitely.

Guys is coming

on. The show is right for you.

It was for me.

Yeah, it's is for all of us.

But. But

do you decide who you as the director,

are you deciding who the murderer
is going to be at each one that you do?

So as as one of the directors,

what we do is we.

To be continued.

Oh, oh, oh, so you have to come.

We have to see. That's it. Oh.

And then, Yeah.

And you have to pay attention
because there's going to be times

where you could take pictures

and text it to, to a phone number
about who you think the murderer is.

And, you know,
we're just going to be put clues together.

So it's going to be an amazing time, let's
say cable TV series about the murderer.

So it's Steve Martin,
a murderer in the building.

Yeah. That's serious. Yeah.

I love true crime.

I don't know what's wrong with me,

but I do hear that a lot of women
love it for some reason.

48 hours,
you know, the 20, 20, all of that.

I love to see the people
in the interrogation room.

Especially when, you know they're lying.

Yeah, and I like to watch their body
language and and all of that. So.

So that means you might be able
to find out who the killer is.

Maybe. Yeah. That's what you good.

You have to watch the body language
you're thinking.

You have to watch the conversations,
their interactions.

Yeah.

That's true, because, you know, when you,
I find myself doing that a lot, too.

You watch people, their body
language, their eye contact, and,

like, you know,

especially with the entertainment
business, you're

keeping an eye on whether they're engaged
or not. Sometime.

Very true. Yeah.

But then when you get a real
smart director

and you watch, like a movie movie
about a whodunit, right.

And it's usually the person you least
suspect, right?

It's all those little plot twists.

Yes, very, very much so. Right.

Yeah.

So who's what are you watching on TV
to watch crime dramas.

Do you like the.

The most recent series
I've been watching is, Black.

Black Rabbit,
Black Rabbit and love Black Rabbit,

black white, matte

black mirror.

It's a nightmare.

Is it okay? It's fine. It's.

Go on.

Yeah, well, I do now,
but when you brought up Black Nancy

and some sort that I heard.
That's amazing. No.

And I think I shared with you that what?

As I was watching it because Jude
Law plays someone so different.

Yeah, yeah. You know, black wolves.

I've been watching Black Wolves.

I've heard about that one too.

But when I watch those, what's his name?

Bateman.

Jason Bateman, he's he's ju law.

Oh, my God, his voice.

You're so much fun to watch.

Yeah, there's enough of that.

Another movie to where he was,

he was trying to do a terrorist attack
in the airport.

Yes. And to.
And I don't remember the nerve racking.

Yeah, yeah. Role reversal.

Yeah.

And so I say this is Jason Bateman
because, you know, he could do comedy.

He could do anything.

He could do anything.
So that's a true actor.

But going back to what

we brought up, what you brought
up, Don is playing the bad guy.

So what I could feel in watching that
when I say it's fun to watch,

I mean, there's a lot of stuff
that goes on that's not fun to watch,

but they're acting was superb
and I thought they must be having a blast.

You know, playing
that's especially like Jason Bateman

not yeah.

You don't you don't hear him playing
but you don't ever know.

Oh yeah. Not at all. Yeah.

I tell you, my favorite series
of all times that I watched is Deadwood.

Ian McShane.

He is.

He was just fantastic.

Oh, yeah. He's a wonderful actor.

I watch the whole series twice.
It was really good. Yeah, yeah.

Are you find certain ones?

I mean, I always I'm always
looking for something new all the time.

I want something new to get things going.

But there's nothing like the classics
when you go back.

Yeah, you know the one.

I'm almost embarrassed to say
how many times I watched the whole series,

and it surprised me how much they loved
it was Breaking Bad.

Oh, yeah, that was, I mean, brilliant.

I mean, it was even the camera angles.

Yeah,
you know, the aggressive at the time.

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

That's right.

It shows his age a little now with the
little flip phones and everything.

But I would watch it again.

But he's the actor.

He's funny Brian Bryan Cranston.

Yeah the boy did he.

You could do anything
if you want to do that.

And yeah I never really heard of him
before Breaking bad.

Yeah, I know he's been around for a while.

He was on a comedy series
that's now the name of it, but I loved it.

Now he seems like he's in something
every year and he's terrific.

It's been going place,
and you reach a certain age at that point

where they become character actors
and they.

And they're having more fun now
because the movie's success

doesn't depend on their name anymore.

Yeah,
they just go out there and have a blast.

And when you see him on a talk
show, he's the funny, funniest guy

you would never think that he was.

What was the his Heisman?

Eisenberg. Heisenberg. Yeah.

He said, or when he says to, his wife was
afraid, you know, that this or that.

And he said,
I am the person that comes to the house.

I am the person people are. Great.

Right? Right. Great. Just great line.

See, people remember the lines you say,
but you're also a creative director.

A creative director.

Yes, I, I wrote a few small parts.

In the wedding show,

in the, murder mystery show.

Mystery here.

I'm pretty good at words.

Yeah.

Sometimes they're not, very good

for publication, but for the show,
we're doing so far here, no edits.

Yeah, it shows that they open
that in pretty good.

Yeah.

That's.

Well, Janice will say to me, come up with
something for this scene and, Yeah, okay.

And I like doing that, I enjoy that.

So who comes up? I'm sorry.

Oh, you know, it's just one who comes up,
like with a new show like Jim. So.

Janice.

Yes, yes.

And this is right
now, in between everything she is.

Yeah. So she writes all of the scripts.

And what I happen is behind the scenes,
Janice

will send it out to her,
for lack of a better word.

Executive team.

And we're review the scripts,
and if there's anything out there,

we have updates or, you know, things that,
we suggest, you know, creative edits,

we'll we'll give it to her
and, you know, show added to the script

and she's always open for suggestions.

Oh, always open. Yeah, yeah.

And then she also wants to
while we have the script, she also wants,

our creatives,
you know, I, you know, we have actors,

but then we also have creatives,
you know, and we want

and we want people
to be as creative as possible.

So when you become a creative
and you're embodying this character,

you have to be able to creatively speak
about how a character

would deliver the lines.

That's why there's no such thing
as a small role or a small throwaway line.

So there's certain artistic license here
to a point to it.

They let you kind of take that because,

I mean, I've done a lot of theater myself
in the past.

And, Joyce,
you may have done the same thing.

And the directors say
when you know the end.

Yeah, from the beginning,
you know how to get there.

And there's different ways to get there.

Yeah, I guess it depends on the director,

but I work with some really,
really good directors

in the past who said, you know, the lines
and if you need to take a different way

of getting there,
as long as the other person knows.

Yeah, that's the key.

That trust in each other.

Yeah. So, I learned under Reno van.

Terry, I'm not sure if you guys have,
heard of Reno Venter,

but he's he's one of my mentors.

And I took classes at the actor's gym.

And one thing that I really

that I
really value about him and about his way,

his creative way of teaching
is he talks about the

and the emotional journey
that we go through as actors.

So even in this, you know, the play of
I Haven't Got

the Clue, each character is going through
an a, an emotional journey.

Now, while this is a, you know, a forest
or, you know, this kind of a comedic

kind of, style of, of, of theater, but
each character has an emotional journey.

And depending on the emotion
that the lines

that are resonating with you,
that's how you deliver it.

So in rehearsal yesterday,

we were talking about, you know, different
aspects of of the show.

Some aspects are comedic,
some aspects are scary.

It is a Halloween show.

So it's all about what is your character
feeling at that time.

And if you're feeling this level
of feeling or this level of emotion,

how do you deliver the line to make it
true and authentic to your character?

And that's
what resonates with our audience.

So you're really out of character
because you sound very intelligent, right?

Mo the muscle zing.

Oh, so so So,

what I meant was, you know, right now,
sometimes we just do it.

Uncle Franco in his place.

Now, when you do live theater two,
anything could happen as well.

Yeah.

Have you ever seen anything where people
have, like, had a brain freeze or.

Oh, I have done it many times.

Yeah, yeah.

I was doing a play
called the Night of January 16th.

It's, an ran play,
and the whole, plays a, trial.

And I was a defense attorney,
and we went through 20 rehearsals

and seven performances,
and we're doing the last performance.

And, you know, at the end of the trial,
you deliver your your final speech

to the jury,
and I'm walking back and forth

doing my speech, and all of a sudden
I got nothing.

I got nothing.

I could feel the blood rushing to my head.
Yep, yep.

And finally, the girl who was on trial,
she yells out something.

It just brings it back. Yeah.

Those 10s there
where I'm walking back and forth saying,

now, how can I explain this to you?

But I had nothing.

Yeah.

Are you saying, please, someone
tell me how I can explain this to you?

It always works out.
Oh, as it works out. Yeah.

Oh, you get that little gap,
you know, I was, doing a play,

I, you know, sometimes you jump a line,
you jump

a couple of lines,
I jump three pages long.

I hit the end.

They said to the director
I thought it was moving kind of slow.

Speed it up a little bit.

What about you, Chris?
Is that happened to you?

Or something similar.

You know what? So

I'm one of those weird people that I.

I transition to acting after doing sports.

So I play basketball, football, soccer,
track and field.

So the the biggest rush that I get now in

my adult
life is from theater or from acting.

So for me, it's

I love it so much that like,
I embrace the opportunity to do it.

So, I just let it flow naturally.

And then if there is a times
where, you know,

maybe there is a curveball
that's thrown at me,

I really utilize improv
to make sure that I,

I may go around, but
I always get back to where I need to be.

Right?

So while that hasn't happened to me yet,
knock on wood,

you know, if it does, I you know,

I think that's just another opportunity
to lean on the improv skills.

You know, the opportunity to go exactly
the love that you're looking at.

Obstacles are opportunities. Yes.

Yes, Jon, I would say those improv skills,
after so many years of doing it

that you would be comfortable, like,
if you mess up,

I know I'll just say whatever,
I can bring it back.

You can always bring it back.

Yeah.

I like to say as long as you know the end.

Yeah. The end is
you have all different ways to get there.

And I have the improv at the tables
with the people.

You know, I'm looking forward to that.
Yeah.

When I was the Irish priest.

Oh, I yeah, I find the most timid
looking person at the table and say,

oh, father wants to hear this
one's confession.

She looks like she's got a bit of
the devil in her. Oh, no. No.

They always pick the most timid
looking for.

Sure, sure. Yeah.

And I guess the best response
from the audience to.

Yeah, yeah.

And but I'm playing the priest.

When I was playing the priest,

every show, somebody would say, father,
would you hear my confession?

You know, and I'd say, oh, Jesus,
we only got an hour and a half.

I don't think you get all in. Oh.

All right, well, I tell you, wherever
you're a priest, I'm going to services,

okay?

Or did you imagine Joe Quaalude on there?

So that is all improv
when you're walking around the tables.

Well, well, not not necessarily 100%. Rob.

So what we do is we have a back story

and how we communicate
that back story is through our improv.

Yeah. So that's that's where I would say
the improv comes in it.

Wow. Yeah.

So you're directing
but you're acting in this one also.

Yes, I am. Okay.

I always admire that.

You know, when you say directed by
and the person starring are there

and they're the two
because that's it's a lot more work.

I mean,
how do you direct yourself sometimes?

I think that it's just being honest
with myself and being open, you know?

And the great thing is that we always have
a genius at all of our rehearsals.

I oh, Janis is always,
you know, provided her input, you know,

providing her a redirection,
even for someone like me.

Yeah.

I may be one of the directors, but she's
also like, I work with her so, so close.

Or hand the hand

that, you know, I'll try certain things
to see fit, to see how it fits, you know?

So I'm not afraid to
to give her something that she says.

You know what, Chris?

This doesn't work, you know, so that's,

you know, so let's try another
another avenue now my okay Janice.

And that just gets
my creative juices flowing.

Because if I do one, if I do a scene
one way and she's like, it doesn't work.

And you know what?
Maybe I could do it this way.

Or maybe I could just add this to it
to make it work.

Or if I if I'm really strong in it as I
if it didn't work,

how can I make it work
by going to Uncle Franco and asking him.

Yes. Right. Hey,

Franco, what do you think?

But it really is about humility, isn't it?

You really have to have you military.

So I think humility
is an overrated virtue.

So I said this about humility.

Being an actor
is one of the most humbling things

that you could be in this world.

And the reason being is you are time
and time again, sharing your gifts

with people who may connect with it

or they may not, you know,
and if people don't, you know,

we've all seen movies that we say,
oh, the acting, the hair is horrible.

But if we allow that to really, determine

if we continue to pursue this, there's,
you know, this course of acting, then,

you know, a lot of us
probably won't be acting.

It takes a lot of courage,
you know, to be a comedian.

I see comedians up there.
How many times they'd have to fail.

You know what?

The times that they go out there
and nobody laughs, right? Yeah.

And that takes a lot of guts
to go back out there and do it again

because you're,

you're out there
basically pouring your heart out

and you're out there by yourself
on a stage.

It's almost like being,
you know, naked in a sense.

Yeah, I can do this every day of the week.

I could never do stand up. No, never.

No, no, I mean it because it's different
is, is is one thing for me

to say something that, that
you guys don't expect and laugh at it,

but it's a
something totally different to say okay.

Make me laugh.

Big difference to what I just see on TV.

Tim, the comedian
Tim Allen, Tim Allen said the first time

he was on a Johnny Carson show,
he bombed so bad

that even Johnny told him he did.

And, but he already he was already acting

and he wanted to do the his standup.

Yeah. So this is what I do. Yeah.

But when he walked out to that stage

with that many people looking at him
and it was a whole different ambiance

going to it, NBC production, he froze.

He I mean, you see the camera's
looking at you.

You think? Yeah, Johnny Carson.

Yeah, yeah.

But the big thing is
he brought him back to do it again.

Yeah. And I guess when.

What is that saying?

When you fall off the horse,
get back on it. Yeah.

And some people don't, you know, and they
may have regrets that they didn't do it.

Yeah. My dad was really good about that.

If I fell off,
he made me get right back up again.

He was top, top military guy.

Yeah. Right back up again.

Yeah.

My father was tough.

Yeah, yeah, my father was an iron worker.

Oh, okay.

And, I used to work with him
in the summer as well as going to school.

And one day I got knocked out on the job,
and he came over.

I was laying on the ground
and he says, get up.

You can't sleep here.

How did you get hurt?

Are you all right?

Man. But this is going to be a great show.

So, Joyce, you want to kind of like, Yeah.
What was this out?

It's coming up on valiant
and knock out Halloween.

You might do a Valentine show.

No, no, never. I never know. Halloween.

I if you go to the woodwinds.com,
you can get your tickets

or read all about it
because the food list is simply amazing.

Oh, yeah. Right.

It has silvio's famous sauce.
There are woodwinds too.

You got to pick up some

that they all they it's
on a lot of the dishes that they make.

But I mean there's 15 signature
hot pass orders.

There's a first course.

Second course on it.

Yeah. You're you eat a lot at woodlands.

But this is the first time
they're doing this this particular show.

Yeah.

They've had Aspen dreams come on
a few times because we we love them there.

The acting is superb.

Thank you.

And we love you.

Oh, we love you. Present there, Uncle Dan.

And I was so good to see you guys.
But we'll see you on Halloween night.

And tickets are still available for this.
Yes. Yeah.

So she just started telling people,
oh, it's the time of broadcast.

As we say.

Get your tickets. Beat the mob.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Joyce Logan, my friend and colleague here.

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