fell in to a burning ring of fire.
I went down, down, John. You are truly.
Oh, John.
Johnny cash.
That's right. Johnny Cash.
And you could sing.
I wear black in his honor today.
And, just listen to some
Johnny Cash earlier, before I came here
to get me fired up for this, and, Yeah.
Good for you.
It's good to see you, Joyce.
Nice to see you.
I wore brown,
but I have no inspiration for this at all.
Earth. I'm earthy today.
It's like the UPS truck.
Whenever the truck comes up.
Hey, I call it the brown Army.
I am you, me. That's okay.
And they have great benefits.
They pay very. Well. That's true.
All right, all right.
I bring packages to people.
That's right. Yeah. That's right.
So I know what's good today.
Because you shared something with me
last night,
and that was the the prayer of Jabez.
Oh, yes.
But you sent me something
that was a little bit more than that.
Yeah, I know that,
you know, bless me, father, indeed.
When you say indeed.
And it's like five exclamation mark. And.
Indeed blessed.
Yeah, dude, it's a prayer I've been saying
with, And we'll see what happens.
I mean, I just started saying
that recently about abundance,
speaking faith over your life,
but in that, in that passage, that book
that I've been reading over
and over again, because it's only like 94
pages, I love it,
I internalize it, my spirit.
It says whenever you have problems,
embrace your problems.
Embrace your problems because you like
obstacles are opportunities,
but give your problems names
so they become like familiar.
So if something keeps popping up,
it's like, oh okay, you know
Halifax, okay.
You know, I don't know where it came up
with anything but help.
Robert, what's going on?
What's going on? Again?
Just go away or just kind of push it down
that way.
It's like it's there,
but it's almost like a familiarity.
It's not like this looming. Yeah.
Because certain words
or a name of a person could trigger
something triggers in you.
Right? Right.
But if you give it another name.
Give it another name.
And it's almost like it's just, you know,
it's there, it's like, oh, there you go.
We can get out of here type thing.
Well like that.
And and they say that's very effective.
I mean, I just started doing that
over the past couple days after reading.
Right?
So if something comes up
and we all have challenges,
I just say, come on, there you go again.
You know? Yeah.
It's almost another way of like saying,
get behind me, Satan.
Right.
Is making it a little bit more colloquial.
It is.
I know, I'm really, really liking that.
And, you know, we were going to talk today
about Stop living
a roller coaster life,
because that's exhausting in solitude.
And we.
All we're all on the roller. Coaster
to see. It's exhausting.
So try to keep on that, that even keel
and so if there's something
or someone who triggers you
and you name it, something even silly.
You just get really kind of silly
about it.
You're kind of goofy about it
just, you know, don't even give it the
the dignity that it doesn't deserve.
Right way.
Right. And again that takes some practice.
It takes some intentionality.
And some people are watching right now.
So you know that's gobbledygook.
And maybe it feels
that way in the beginning.
But then I felt that way.
But now that I've been doing it
for a couple of days with a couple things
that have weighed heavily on my heart,
and we all have them.
No matter who you are
watching right now, something is weighing
heavily on your heart.
That can really help, be therapeutic.
You know, I, I oh, I wish I
could think of the whole quote,
but I'm pretty sure it's Eckhart Tolle.
Or some people say. Yes.
He said like, welcome every problem.
As if you invited it in, and then you.
I don't know if.
What if it loses its
it loses its power. Yes.
It loses its power.
And you begin to think, okay,
how can I use this for my good?
What is this lesson I need to learn?
And I know people hear that a lot
all the time.
They're so sick of hearing the lessons.
Life is a lesson.
If you're sick. Every day,
you get it. Lesson?
We get it. Yes,
we know that. We know that.
But if it works and it does work.
And something I heard recently
that a mentor told me Joyce was
don't let the problem with a person
rent real estate in your head.
Oh good.
Don't let it rent real estate
between your ears.
Yes, because we do that all the time.
And when you keep thinking
about that person that annoys you or
or that situation, you're giving that
person or that situation power over you.
Now you take the power.
You have dominion.
Right? Right.
I'm just thinking that there's my
my son's in my life, at least one of them.
And I call my grandson my son
because he's lived with me forever.
So there's I have three boys
and invariably my cousins.
Invariably.
Every day, every other day, I will say,
did you hear on the news?
And it's like, no, no.
And don't tell me exactly.
But then they do start talking
amongst themselves.
And I usually excuse myself out
because I could feel
something bubbling
within me that I don't want.
Because when that happens,
I dream about it
and I don't want it taking space up,
like you said, renting space in my mind.
And it's.
Not like we're ostriches with our heads.
Sometimes. I am, I.
Mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I guess,
but but but I am aware of what's going on.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know,
I like to be aware of that,
you know, especially being in the media.
Being in the entertainment business.
Yeah,
of course I have to be aware of all that.
But at the same time,
I'm not going to let it consume me.
Right.
I'm going to develop, like I said
in a previous episode, that mental armor,
when I do my prayer
for work in the morning.
So I have all my positive affirmations,
all my prayer.
So when I go out there,
then I'm ready to to,
you know, actually objectively
listen to the news, right?
And not let it have a negative effect
on me, at least not, you know, on purpose.
Yeah.
You know, and try to look at it
in a more objective fashion and weigh
both sides of the issue.
I'm very, very open minded about that.
That's my nature.
Yeah.
I listen to both sides
and I'll make up my own
mind of what I'm hearing with the news.
You know, I think some people are.
They find peace or they're meant to be,
the Warriors, and they'll go out
with their signs or whatever.
I don't roll that way.
I vote I owe money to other people.
Yeah, I do my thing.
I'm more prayerful as you are, John. Yes.
And there's a need for people like that
in this world,
you know, to hold the peace, to hold it,
and to know that nothing stays forever.
Things change all the time.
And if you don't learn to flow
with the change,
you're just not going to be happy.
Well, they say the only thing
positive is change.
Yeah. Embrace that.
Embrace the change and. Embrace. It.
It was an old song back in the 70s
called Rolling with the flow.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
And of course you want to know that.
Look it up on, you know, Apple or Pandora.
You know who's. Struggling.
Which of t o.
Some people if they're under 40 right now.
I said, who am
I. No, I think all music has a it's coming
back.
Right. Well everything old is new again.
Now that's a whole new generation.
So you could talk to a 20 year
old about something maybe we grew up with,
and they're going to know it
because they have complete access to it.
Right.
Getting involved,
you know, all the different platforms
they can listen to it on.
So the music is timeless.
I know we're kind of drifting off
a little bit,
but anytime you mentioned music.
Yeah.
Man. Yes.
That's our passion.
Yeah. I think it's very peaceful.
Yeah. It does.
You know,
I remember they did a study once where
they took
people who had high blood pressure
or any kind of health problems,
and they put them in an atmosphere
of when they grew up and it
it was like the 19 oh so 1950s.
And they before our time where.
Yes way.
And they kept them in this atmosphere
where there were only shows shown
and on their TV from the 1950s,
only music from the 50s.
And at the end of this, this week
research,
there, blood pressure was way down.
They had a more youthfulness about them.
Aches and pains went away.
So that is really the power of our mind.
Well, music.
Therapy and music therapy is so. Patient.
It's so important.
It really is.
The power of the mind.
It makes me want to.
All right.
So I should, Try to talk about the book
here.
No, no,
we don't want to talk about the book.
I love the book. There's just.
This book.
I mean, don't be shy about it,
because this book is going to
be therapeutic and help a lot of people,
just like your previous books.
Let me tell you something.
My book helps me.
Read because,
you're having a hard time.
You're going to the show.
I forgot to bring out your own book.
I forgot what I said and a lot of things,
because it just poured out of me.
It just poured out of you.
When you're writing the book,
do you find that, what kind of mindset
you get into when you.
I've always been curious
about when people write music
and I sit with songwriters,
I sit with authors.
What is there?
Is there a specific system you have,
or is it all over the map?
I think it
I start with one thought
and then I can't stop.
I it's not like I think
I would be really bad at writing a novel
to keep all the fake people in place,
but when it comes from my heart,
I was very surprised what I wrote about,
you know, even like my
the Michael Bolton years and.
Oh. What a what a what a, you know.
No, because.
A lot of people wanted to know
how did you get involved with that?
Like how did you do this
and how did you do that?
And, and you know, in the book,
my book also talks about,
you know, I didn't have a great beginning
when you when you're 16 years old
and pregnant, and you have two kids
by the time you're 18.
Yeah, but look at these two kids.
They're gifts.
Absolutely. Gifts.
You know,
my grandson said to me the other day,
he said, you made some poor life choices.
And I said, let me tell you something.
If I didn't make those choices,
you wouldn't exist right.
Now, right? So remember that,
So go there and eat your hot dogs right?
I got to tell you, that's funny.
But the one thing I wanted to share,
that maybe will help
all of us in life
not have, like, this roller coaster life.
And and to think about things differently,
how much control we have over it.
I've got to take this is for it.
Glare for my eyes. It's.
They're not. You're like.
You're like a musician
as a guitar. For every different.
No. These are my reading glasses. Okay.
So Deepak Chopra is,
you know, he's a medical doctor,
but he's more known for teaching
mindfulness.
And, he was a medical doctor in Boston.
And when he was, in Boston,
he wrote down some case histories
that he worked with.
And that's what began his journey
on figuring out the mind
body connection, because years ago,
they didn't call it that.
They really didn't have, you know.
Oh, a word for that.
They knew stress was bad,
but they know that what that was about it.
It's very brief
what I'm going to write, but
I felt like my whole book could just be
this one chapter, like, you're.
In a book club.
So I'm going to read to case number
five okay.
About Mrs. D'Angelo.
And this isn't Deepak Chopra words.
Mrs. D'Angelo, 63 years
old, was admitted to the hospital
with jaundice.
Jaundice is most noticeable
as the yellowing of the skin
and the whites of the eyes,
which in this case was thought
to be a result of gallstones.
The patient, therefore, was scheduled
to be taken to the operation room.
The operating room for surgery.
When her abdomen was opened,
we discovered that
she did not have gallstones,
but gallbladder cancer.
The cancer involved the whole abdominal
cavity and had invaded her liver.
The patient was considered inoperable
and without any further maneuvers,
we closed up the abdomen while Mrs.
D'Angelo was still in the recovery room,
I informed her daughter of the diagnosis.
She insisted that I not tell her mother.
I know my mother.
She will die immediately
if you tell her that she has cancer.
Reluctantly,
I told the patient that she indeed
had gallbladder stones,
which we had removed.
I rationalized
that her daughter would tell her the truth
some time after they went home.
I also believe that the patient would not
live more than a couple of months.
I next saw her eight months later
in my office.
Her jaundice had cleared up
almost completely and she looked radiant
and healthy.
There was no clinical evidence
of any cancer.
Mrs. D'Angelo still visits me regularly
for routine checkups
and is free of disease.
The last time she came to see me,
she said, doctor, when you admitted me
to the hospital three years ago
with jaundice, I was sure I had cancer.
I was so relieved.
When you operate it
about gallstones that I made up
my mind never to be sick again.
This is one
of the most amazing cases
that I have ever encountered.
The placebo in this case was not a drug,
but the operation.
Although clinically useless,
the surgery had led to a complete cure.
Of course, in actuality,
it was not even the operation,
but the patients thoughts afterwards
that made her live.
Wow, how powerful is that.
Eye and body?
How powerful is that?
How the mind can heal?
Because she had no reference of cancer
and she spoke wellness into her body. Yes.
The very cells of her body began changing
and eradicated the cancer.
And what he discovered after that.
Was, you know, goes back
to the neuroplasticity of the brain. Yes.
And able to do that where you can actually
heal the inside of your body.
The brain can do that.
Yes, but it all begins with your thoughts.
It does begin with your thoughts.
Which of course
come from the brain as we know. Yeah.
Wow. But that is just powerful stuff.
You know that.
Well, that that that led him to do
what he, what he does today.
And then I have a picture of myself
with Deepak because I always thought
I would love to meet him every time.
I see Deepak, I think a two, actually.
You know. Super.
Yeah.
Totally different gang, totally different.
Right? No it. Is. Yeah. Right. Right.
I know I just had this vision of me
and Tupac
hanging out.
But, But that,
so I had this thought that I, you know,
I would love to meet him
and share
that that made a change in my life.
And again, that had to be
that was a good 30.
Oh, that was yeah, that was probably 1991.
When he wrote
that book called Creating Health.
Just an excellent, excellent book.
Another one to add.
And and he was just,
you know, he was a doctor
as a medical doctor writing about that.
So fast forward to what, 2018
I and there's a picture of us together.
I happened to be asked to,
oversee an event
and he was the guest speaker.
So I walked up to him.
It was because I was able to tell him.
Case number five, this is DHB. Yeah, yeah.
And right away my life.
Changed my life, you know.
And but some people may think okay
but people die. Yes.
But we still have the power
to have good thoughts.
We still have the power to have peace.
Do people always get healed? No.
But to me, death isn't such a bad thing
because we transition to another state.
I mean, a lot of people do say that.
They say, well,
how come so-and-so got healed?
But my mom or dad didn't
get healed, right?
They did get healed, right,
but just not in the way we wanted, right?
We wanted them to be here with us. Right?
You know, you've been through that
with your with your late husband, Wayne.
I went through that with my first wife.
You know, who, went to be with the Lord.
And I just look at it
this way. He listened.
They were healed, right?
But not in the way. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
None of us will ever get out of this world
alive.
Well, that that's that's for sure.
But while we're on Earth,
let's enjoy the trip.
We have so much beauty in this world,
I know, let's focus on the negative.
But I think there's a lot more good.
Yeah. This world, I really do.
You know, I looked at my my bedroom window
and I looked at my,
my dead tree because it's winter time.
And I just looked at it
and I said, not too beautiful
because right now you're resting.
But I know that's going to happen soon.
So sometimes
when people look around and say, oh, it's
so drab looking, I just think, no,
the beauty is resting right now.
It's going to come back in all its glory.
Change your words,
change your words, change your thoughts,
and the world around you will change.
And if something really bad bothers you
in the news on TV, for God's sakes,
turn it off.
Turn it off.
Go find your favorite movie. Yes.
You know, find something.
I remember a doctor speaking to a woman.
One time, and
and she was really depressed about life.
And he said, let me ask you a question.
When was the last time
you really left home?
The last time you had a belly laugh?
Yeah.
You know, she says, maybe 25 years ago.
That long? Wow.
So said, you go home
and find something that makes you laugh,
find a comedy show, a movie that made
you laugh back in the day, whatever.
And just watch it every night before you
go to bed, whenever it makes you laugh.
And she came back
like maybe 3 or 4 weeks later,
and he was going to prescribe,
you know, some medicines and things,
but said you don't need them anymore
because the laughter, you know,
laughter is the best medicine.
Yeah, I remember that book. I do. Yeah.
Let's laugh every day.
I think I do laugh every day. Yeah.
My wife and I laughed a lot, many times
at each other, but with each other and.
At each other.
But we love the laugh.
My son Tim makes me laugh all the time.
He sees the world in exaggerated way,
but he's really funny at it.
And if he had more, I think
confidence in and of self,
he would be like Robin Williams, right?
Well, he's he's very much like that.
He's very quick, quick.
And he sees the humor in things.
But the way he says it,
even if you know, like
dating somebody
or whatever we're talking about,
I mean, I laugh til I cry til
I can't catch my breath sometimes.
But that's great because I, me and you,
you get on the roller coaster
and you're up there,
and then sometimes things happen
where you're a little bit down
and then you're back up again.
A roller coaster of life
that we're all on.
Nobody's exempt.
Right? He's on the ride. Right.
I think about roller coasters.
You know, many times where I've been.
I love roller coasters.
Back to it, but it just.
You think about the ones at the amusement
park, you know?
But it depends on what you eat beforehand.
So to see.
How you're jostled, you know, that's life.
You know, that's life.
You know you're feeling good,
you're feeling,
but you know you're out of your peaks
and valleys and. Yes.
Yeah, I was going somewhere with that,
but I don't know where. But.
Yeah, but.
Yeah, but you but you set the tone
every morning to have that
that foundation of peace.
Foundation is key.
You know, when you first wake up,
you know, think I think I do this
every morning almost subconsciously I was
I say, wow, I'm, I'm a I'm live.
Like I'm always surprised that I'm like.
I mean I look out the window and like you
said, I look at the trees and the trees
may not have any leaves on them right now,
but I know that underneath it all.
And the roots. Yeah.
And everything inside the tree, it's
all coming to life.
Oh, I see the miracle in it.
You do see it? Yes.
It happens every single year.
The same thing. Right?
That tree.
And all of a sudden, in a matter of time,
it's going to be budding with leaves
and life, right?
Yeah.
And it's the little things like that.
It may seem like we're talking
like so little, you know, like.
But it's so true.
Like walk out on your front porch, back
porch, whatever,
and just say,
oh my God, I have eyes to see.
I have ears to hear. I could feel.
Life is beautiful.
Just say life is beautiful.
Because what you keep saying
you will see more of you.
Will you bring into your existence
what you say and thank you.
Sure do.
Yeah. So be so careful
what you say about yourself.
Say over. Yourself. Right.
That's so important. Right.
And especially if you're around people
I know people and working environments.
Why is it the
camaraderie of people
seems to be so easy to talk about
how bad the weather is,
how bad the news is, how bad that is.
But you could be the person
that can change that one person.
When you walk into a room, it
takes one person to switch on the light.
Yeah, you know,
you could be in a whole room
and you can feel the negativity.
Like it cuts like a knife, right?
Yes. And watching right now,
you probably think, oh yeah.
Yeah.
I've ever been to a corporate meeting
where you walked into that room
and it's like you just feel the tension,
and you could be that one person
that changes it.
Just by the way you walk in the room
with a smile and bring that out.
You're really great at that.
You were really great at that.
I think I probably more
I know I'm more low key, but I have blood
drawn, you know, not too long ago
and it was early in the morning.
And the woman said to me, you know,
the woman who was drawing the blood said,
when I came in this morning in the
parking lot, there was a double rainbow.
Wow. You saw a double rainbow?
She said. Yeah.
And then I come in to this.
Day and I. Said to her, do this.
But you saw a double rainbow, right?
Keep your mind on the double rainbow
that you saw, because that was beautiful.
And I know you deal
with a lot of heart stuff.
I said, but keep that in your mind.
And when I left, she said, you know what?
Thank you for that
because I didn't think of it that way.
And the thing is, and that's great choice
because you have a great way
of doing that as well.
And the thing is, just focus on
what somebody is doing, right.
So when you go into a place where, you
know, people are dealing with stress, yes.
And they have a stressful job
and you're dealing with the public.
Yeah.
You go to a doctor's office and you're
dealing with a lot of challenges.
Yeah. And sickness.
You know, my wife this morning
was on the phone with somebody
scheduling a doctor's appointment,
and I was listening to the woman
on speaker phone and talking to Patty,
and she was so good at what she does.
And, and,
and she was talking to the person.
I said, I got to tell you
something in the background.
You are really good at what you do.
Yeah.
You know, they are really very fortunate
to have you there.
And then Patty said, well, will I see you?
When I'm there?
Speaking to the woman
setting up the appointment said,
oh yeah, you'll you'll see me too.
And I said, wow,
you know, she's very lucky
that she's going to be able to see you
because you spread such joy.
And I know it can't be easy because you're
dealing with all kinds of people.
She's g thank you, thank you.
It's nice to hear that once in a while.
Yeah.
Don't assume people hear that
because they probably don't.
You know what. And and helps yourself
to, doesn't it?
When you do that,
it really bounces back to you.
It does.
And when you when you compliment
somebody you feel good to.
Yeah. You're not only make them
feel good, but you feel good.
Yeah.
So yesterday that happened
where I had physical therapy
and then I had to get back home
to pick up my grandson
because he had to see his EMT,
you know, ear, nose and throat and,
and I so
I went all the way back out the same way.
And we pulled into the parking lot
and there was zero cars there.
And he said, it looks like they're closed.
And I said, oh, no,
maybe everyone you know parked him back.
You know, everyone that works there.
And it is late in the day.
We're probably the last one.
So we walk in. It's like the doors locked.
So I called
and I did get someone in another office.
It said, oh, well,
you must have been called
because the doctor canceled
all his appointments today.
And, and I said, no.
So now I'm on the phone, but
it's coming through, you know, the radio.
So Matthew was sitting there
listening and,
and, she said, well,
I'm sure we must have called.
And I said, no, no, nobody called me.
I said, but that's so that's okay.
We could reschedule.
And she said, well, I'm really sorry.
I said, no, no, it's not your fault.
You know, I just I'm just looking to see
if we could reschedule.
She goes, well,
I don't have all the appointments in front
and we just had this conversation,
which I'm not really aware
of the whole conversation,
but what was important
is after that, my grandson said to me,
you handled that so well.
He said, a lot of people would be
really upset and they would be, he said.
But like you have this way
with people that kind of like
you make them your friends.
Because I asked her what her name was
and she told me her name.
People love. That. And, and it was Cindy.
And I said, well, Cindy,
you know, this isn't your fault.
And trust me, nobody called me
because I would have not sure
come out here and and all of that,
but I just thought that,
it is the way we handle things.
And I just taught someone a lesson.
My grandson.
And he said I wouldn't be able to do that
because being that
he's in the spectrum. Yes.
He doesn't have a
lot of that, that social ness
and I
thought about as I'm driving,
I said, Matthew you can do that.
You can.
You'll have to learn it
and you'll have to practice it.
But everyone loves to be respon
to, to in a courteous way
and just know that even the people we go
to physical therapy with,
you know, that are helping us.
They deal with a lot of stuff
and people that are not in a great mood.
So, you know,
it is important to uplift people
because you're uplifting yourself as well.
I'm not angry.
And he said, yeah, if we didn't
go out here, then we wouldn't.
He said, it got me out of the house
and I do like getting out.
And then he mentioned all the things
that he liked about our ride.
So there you go.
It could have been, oh,
I can't believe I drove all the way out.
Here thing is it.
And and it's. Human nature
so many times to be upset.
Yeah, but we have to again
be intentional once again
and realize
that it's not the end of the world. Right?
You know that we're all human beings.
And put yourself in that person's
shoes. Yes.
You know, if we're going to be, you know,
casting stones at people about things,
regardless of the situation,
we better be perfect ourselves.
And none of us aren't.
So we just have to kind of step back,
take a deep breath,
because I've had things happen
where people call me
and I really wanted that appointment,
or nobody call to say,
listen, it's not your fault mom died.
Your fault. We can always reschedule.
At the.
In the large scheme of life, it's
not a big deal.
Right? And I.
And I said to it to a person once, I said,
hey, listen, if it ain't cancer,
I ain't worried about it. Yeah.
And, and I said, yeah, yeah,
you're really right.
You can correct people's thought.
Yes. And, and even people
that are battling cancer, many times
they'll say, listen, I've got cancer.
But somebody else has it worse.
Yeah. There's always someone
that has it worse. Yep.
Yes. I learned that early on.
Oh, I love this.
You know, where. We, came into read.
In a reading.
I know, I love.
It, so I'm going to leave you all
with this for your affirmation of the day.
Your life.
I am the creator of my reality.
I know that my thoughts,
emotions and beliefs create my reality
and so I choose to align them
with abundance,
joy and infinite possibilities.
I now choose to release all limitations,
step into my true power,
and effortlessly manifest
the life I desire.
That's for you, for always and forever.
And I'll drink. I'll drink to. That. Yes!
Thank you so much for choosing us here
and our podcast.
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That could be dangerous.
You know, the things you could find
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