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Well, Michael, welcome back to part
two of our our second half hour with you.
We might have to have a third or fourth.
I love this guy as energy.
We are Rocky mountain. Hi.
Welcome back.
Welcome back
to what's good with John and Joyce.
With Michael Buckley.
Do I see that
you put on that you're retired?
Are you being retired from what, the buck
or you're
retired YouTuber?
Okay.
Every day, normal people hours.
Yeah.
So what are you lucky again
I so I Amanda's
twins shout out to Amanda
if she's listening to this.
She and her partner Stephanie Harris
run this amazing
company called Aero Senior Living.
And back in January of 2018, Amanda,
knowing me from YouTube
and knowing that I was in coaching now,
hired me to coach her as the chief
operating officer of this company.
And she very casually also said,
I have a company,
would you like to do a group
coaching session?
So I get on this call.
I'm all dressed up in a suit
trying to look like a person.
I'm talking.
I ramble for an hour
about how to show up at work
with the right deliberate mindset and blah
blah blah blah blah.
I mean, I could have done this
talking about nine minutes, but I'm.
Of this very tedious call,
she says, who wants to work with Bach?
Well, you can say everybody's based like,
I'm good.
In your blah blah blah blah.
But it was interesting because I think
I worked with four people right away,
and these were people who definitely
just wished to meet people pleasing to the
yeah, suck up.
At the end of my first year,
I was working with like 19 people,
and then by the end of my second year,
I think I was working with 90 people. Wow.
For eight years.
Oh my gosh.
Everybody in some capacity.
And they call me their chief feelings.
Officer.
It's officer
a lot of leadership development,
and it's been such a gift
to get to work with this many people.
And it's been the best eight years of
my life getting to do this work every day.
Well, I want that for you. I have no idea.
I do.
You hit on something
that is so key in people's life.
Not just work life, but,
you know, life at home.
Emotional intelligence.
Oh, my. When you.
When you said that before,
a lot of people are kind of like,
you know, lacking that area.
I know I'm guilty of that
a times in certain areas of my life.
But emotional
intelligence is so important.
And I mean, one of the things I say
in my onboarding is, you know,
they teach us math and science.
They don't teach us
emotional intelligence. Right.
And pretty much 80 to 90% of the problems
people are having to get work
or emotional.
Yes. Yes, exactly.
They have knowledge, but
they just have they can't give feedback.
They can't take feedback.
Well, everything's an attack.
And so we really work on that a lot.
And again, it's
interesting about social awareness too,
because we think we're so self-aware
and socially aware.
And then we are always having the exact
same conversation with our partner,
with our colleagues.
Groundhog day, Groundhog Day.
Yeah, yeah.
With so many people
and it doesn't it makes me better, right?
Because if I'm doing this work
all day, every day with others,
that is nothing but a luxury,
a privileged, a gift,
an invitation for me
to be better with them and for them.
So, yeah. So.
So do they be with you
before they go to HR to complain?
Like, are you the media?
Racism, sexism, homophobia?
Please go to HR. Okay?
You're just not getting along
with someone.
I could probably help you with that.
Yeah. Wow.
Wow. I meant to be a
a resource, a sense of support.
And I love it because I'm not the boss.
I don't have a horse of the race.
My role is to love them,
to care for them, to cheer for them.
And I hope they hit all their business
objectives.
But if they don't, I'm
just there to be of support.
And I say, whether you're working here
for another day,
another month, or the rest of your career,
I want you to get as much out of this
as you can.
And I think the whole key is just to focus
on, you know, today,
because tomorrow is not even guaranteed
to any of us.
We focus on
being the best who we are today.
But let me ask you this.
What drives you each and every day?
What is a typical day
like for you at this stage of your life?
I mean, I wake up, I make my bed.
First thing they teach you.
They teach you that in the military.
They teach you that in the military.
I'm in very good habits.
I think very successful
people are in very good habits.
Yes, I have good evening routine.
I have good midday routine.
So every morning I wake up, I.
I'm grateful right away.
I actually have to do no mental
gymnastics.
I wake up with zero anxiety or dread.
I've never talked to you myself
out of getting out of bed.
I make up very happy
and very joyful
and very excited for the day ahead.
I answer every morning.
I do the same devotional every morning.
It's called Jesus Calling.
Yes, I have that.
We do every morning. Yes,
yes. Oh wow.
I can see where I was at.
Wow. That's great, that's great.
And every day I journal,
I write down what I'm grateful for.
I write down what I'm excited about.
It says the podcast with Joyce and John.
Wow.
That I'm choosing for the day.
I might steal some of the sentences
from the devotional.
As my mindset,
I write down my purpose every day.
My purpose is to be an example of joy
and possibility.
I like brings clarity and perspective.
So even being on this podcast right now,
that's just me
living in line with my purpose.
Oh wow.
I just love it, I love it,
just take discipline, doesn't it?
It does, it does.
Yes. I'm not naturally disciplined.
It's interesting
when I teach others about emotions,
I'll give three examples of emotions
that I've not naturally.
I'm not naturally patient.
I'm not naturally compassionate.
I'm not naturally disciplined.
However, all three of those I'm nine
out of ten now because I practiced. Yes.
And now you don't.
Now you're not practicing.
Now. It's just it's just natural.
You just.
Because everything
we have to do things with intentionality,
it's all about being intentional
each and every day.
And you are obviously with that.
But I love the routine aspect, Joyce
and I, you do kind of the same thing with,
you know, working out to me
a spirit, mind, body, spirit, mind, body.
You've got to take care of all three.
They have to be in concert
with each other.
But waking up in the morning,
gratitude is riches.
Somebody told me a long time ago, Michael,
the gratitude is riches.
Complaint is poverty.
I never forgot that it drains you.
Every second is an
opportunity to be grateful
and multiply the things you love.
Oh, I love it, I love it.
The compound effect.
The compound effect.
Generically grateful it wears off, right?
If I just say I'm grateful for my spouse,
my health, my whatever, that.
But what about my health?
What about my spouse?
So I think if you're listening
and you're trying to do a daily gratitude
practice, yeah, I think you should be
as specific as possible.
Like when I get done with this interview,
I'm not just going to be like
this podcast.
I'm going to write down in parentheses
the 2 or 3 things
that I particularly embrace.
Like I am grateful for my co-host Joyce
and her butter crunch.
I'm grateful for that. Her butter crunch.
That you're no longer doing caffeine.
Are you doing sugar?
Because if you do sugar, I'm
going to mail you some for when it gets
the weather gets cooler.
A little sugar?
A little shit.
I give them sweets every year for lads.
Not that I think that God cares
about those things for me.
I do it for my waistline.
But I enjoy.
As someone who gave up alcohol,
I'm really good at giving up things.
So like 2017, I gave up fast
food, diet soda and alcohol.
Of the three, guess which was the hardest?
Diet cola?
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I go to the movies
and I see a big soda.
Yeah, I'll be like
alcohol.
I think fast food is disgusting.
Oh, but I could dabble in a Diet
Pepsi or something.
I just had this conversation with my son,
who does all kinds of athletic things
to stay in shape.
He got his doctors have said,
you have to give up the Diet
Pepsi
because it's causing this acid reflux.
And it's the hardest thing
for him to give up in that diet soda.
You're better off
drinking regular soda than diet soda.
Exactly.
I just stay away from
I stay away from all that.
And I love being healthy.
I think I'm
the law in jeopardy of my body.
I'm in the best shape of my life.
I'm very strong.
I have nothing but endurance.
I mean, I spent the last eight years.
Dude, this is interesting.
When I moved here, I.
I had not played sports
since middle school.
I was one of those gay kids
who really loved sports,
but I felt just a little too
anxious or nervous.
So by the time it was high school,
I was done.
And then I moved here.
I started indoor soccer,
outdoor soccer ball, dodgeball.
Oh, wow.
Ultimate frisbee.
And then even, like, flag football.
Like, I've got these three trophies.
I was like, wow.
Yeah.
And I go to these tournaments
and I'm a defensive quarterback, knew
nothing about football.
And that became
such a huge part of my life.
So again, people listening
don't be defined
by what you thought you were in 2030.
At age 42, I developed all new hobbies
and interests, I love that.
Wow. It really it really is amazing.
Was it difficult for you when you left
Connecticut to move to Colorado?
Well, your twin sisters.
Yeah. And so I was just ready.
I was so ready.
Yeah. No, I love the idea of change.
I've been self-employed since 2008.
I could live anywhere.
I really was living the life I grew up.
I had a house in Connecticut.
My husband and I had a house on Cape Cod.
Oh, wow.
And I think about
my definition of success.
I was living the life
that my father was living.
So on paper,
this is what I should be doing.
And then that I was like,
I don't want any of this,
any of this, I don't. Yeah.
And so in Colorado is
beautiful place to live.
And that's another reason
I'm in such good shape
because everyone's in good shape here.
Everyone is hiking and biking and yeah,
you know, it really rubbed off on me.
And I think that's
that's part of the reason I drank so much
because like, I go to visit Connecticut,
like, everyone's just.
So I love, but
that's all.
I get it, right.
About the altitude
because I have asthma
and I kind of struggle with that.
I'm afraid to even visit there
that I won't be able
to breathe like that's what they say.
But yeah, I would feel it, right?
I'd walk up the stairs
and I'd be a little.
And then now that I live here,
that's why they have the Olympic
Training Center here.
So you can train an altitude
and get used to that.
So when you go compete,
you're ready for it.
How long did it.
How long did it take?
Well, probably didn't take you long time,
but I don't use that.
Bring your inhaler and come to.
Just to go to Red rocks alone.
It's worth it. I
go to Mile High and see the Broncos play.
I mean, the reason why I brought up
because I just saw an interview
or a clip of Rock Stewart
because he was performing in Colorado,
but he had the oxygen
tank off to the side.
And at one point they, they they.
Yeah, yeah.
Because to sing
and have that pressure that you feel well,
well the football teams have that too
when they play Denver,
you know and and and and
and the competitive teams come in there.
They have a real tough time
with that altitude.
That's a big home
field advantage for the Broncos.
Games.
And when the Celtics are playing
while we're on Jersey.
And I'm always
I can't really remember the Broncos.
But again I, I, I guess I don't know
it's weird to be a sports
grown up now growing up in New
England and living in Denver.
Yeah.
What drives you both these days?
You give me all.
Getting up
and doing the podcast, but also making
a big difference in people's lives.
I mean, each and every day, I'm just,
you know,
I always say, God, please put people
in my path that I can be good to today,
somebody that I can just, you
know, lift up with a kind word by them.
A cup of coffee
that drives me to no end at the moment.
There's so much,
so many people are so unhappy, Michael.
They're going through life.
They're just kind of
like sleepwalking through life.
No joy, no passion.
Getting beaten up by people at work,
being beaten up in their relationships.
And if we could make a big difference
in their life for just 5 or 10 minutes,
it can change the whole trajectory
of their life.
That drives me.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
What's driving you these days?
Well, I get up in the morning
and I take care of my family.
I have, I have two
that are disabled that I take care of.
So that drives me to make their world
better.
And I have a couple of companies
that I work with that
I help their businesses grow
or I help them, social media, whatever.
But and I love this chapter of my life
with John, because John and I met
at polar, where we worked back
in 83, back in the 80s, way back.
You know, friendly.
We've been in each other's lives
for a long time.
So doing this is just, like,
so beautiful to me.
It's just it's my peace.
It centers me thinking about you
coming on the show.
I get excited like weeks before, you know,
it's it's a different kind of peace
that I'm feeling with this.
I feel like we're bringing things
to people that we have talked about.
When John and I would talk
at a coffee shop, it was always about
praying for people and the people
you know that were important in our lives,
and now we can share some of our wisdom
also, you know,
going through things that we've lived
and it's bringing someone like you.
Yeah. That is so inspiring.
Really.
Like you,
you went through how you developed
a really public persona online
and what no one else was really doing.
That and the passion put into it
and the work you put into it.
And now look at the people you're helping.
Let me ask you this.
Are you still doing personal coaching
that people know?
Because I really don't have time.
I called all day, every day.
So I have to be very mindful
of my battery capacity and I.
And that's a good thing.
Attention to senior living
is that they got it.
I've gone all in with that
and they've got all it with me.
And so that's that's where my focus is.
But I wanted to just say
I love what John said because about,
you know, when I started, what the Rock
or what I was on the public access studio,
I said, I didn't know
if 12 people are watching or 12,000
people are watching, but I simply hope
that someone is enjoying this.
And I think for you guys on your podcast,
if one person is listening,
it gets a little inspiration
or even not inspiration.
Encouragement.
Yes, it's a successful endeavor.
And I think, you know, John,
when you say there's
a lot of unhappy people out there,
I think if
nothing was asking me for advice,
but if if they could just be of service or
be of value, there goes their happiness up
a little bit.
I think we're trying so hard to be happy,
which is such an American thing.
Yeah, yeah, I think Americans are great.
Watch to have a premium unhappiness.
If they have said life, liberty
and pursuit of compassion
like pursuit of patience would value that.
But because they just told us
we have the right to be.
Yeah, we make it
so much more important than it is.
Like when someone asks me, am I happy?
I'm like, I don't think about it right?
Very joyful. I'm very grateful.
But I'm not overly obsessed
with the idea of happiness
because all the new studies
teach about well-being, right?
And so it's not about positive emotions.
It could be, you know, relationships,
or it could be,
having a life of meaning, like,
or it could be success and achievement,
like some people are wired for that.
So when we're all worried
about everybody's happiness,
it's more like,
what is well-being look like to you?
Like I said, a life well lived.
So when people are listening,
I would encourage them not to be obsessed
with happiness, but just again,
well-being, whatever that looks like
is different for John is different.
Well, that's it for me.
That's it. Yep, you said it.
It's well-being.
Well-Being is true
because happiness ebbs and flows.
Like you were saying before, it's just a
it's a roller coaster, but
just go out there and be an encouragement.
Go, go out there.
And if you're having a really tough day,
go out there and do something
good for somebody else.
You elevate them, you elevate yourself.
So but you're exercising also.
Don't I see you like pictures?
I think I mean, you're going
to a gym and working out.
I have a treadmill and I do what
I used to go to the gym.
I would do a program called Celeste Mills
Not Sponsored and on trail again,
and strength training and core training,
and I just I didn't like doing it
with other people as much as I like
just having the video on here.
So I bought all that equipment.
It's also easier for me
just to get out of bed and just do it.
There are seasons of my life
when I love going to the gym,
I would do Orange Theory or I would.
I love group fitness,
but and I might when I'm 60, in ten years
I might change my mind.
But for this season, for this chapter,
I'm working out at home.
They got me watching basketball
and how we're in on speed, lifting
weights and watching basketball.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's
what people need to do more.
Even if they have trouble walking,
you could sit in a chair
and do you know some upper body.
You you really need
to take care of the temple,
because when God gave us
this magnificent body
to be able to go out there and use
and all that is, if you don't use it,
you lose it and you don't realize
how important health is until later on in
life, especially.
So take care of it.
Get up.
And like you said, just walk. Just move.
Get off the couch.
But I like to get up
first thing in the morning,
do my prayerful work, and do tai chi.
I do tai Chi for a half hour, 45 minutes.
Meditation, emotion, yoga, Pilates.
I do strength training 5 or 6 days a week.
Really really good with nutrition
I intermittent fast, I fast, I love,
I love fasting.
Matter of fact, I'm in the midst
of a 24 hour fast right now as we speak.
And it's just it's
so healing for the body.
It really is. Michael,
did you just say you love fast?
You fast? You. Yeah.
Do you
have certain days that you do it or.
I just do the I stop eating,
right. Intermittent intermittent fasting.
Right.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
That really does reset the.
Oh, and the thing is you
I'll do a 72 hour fast
maybe once every month, month and a half.
And it's like rebuilding
your immune system.
You know, it's autophagy.
So it's like having a vacuum cleaner
put it in your body
and eating up all the bad cells and just
recreating a whole new body in the system.
It's amazing.
Yeah, I love that.
No, I, I tried to encourage
people even like,
and I never loved exercise
until I was like early 40s.
So I mean, I made it through those
first couple of years
just having a good metabolism
and being relatively in shape.
And so it's fascinating to me
how much I enjoy exercise
as just again, for my well-being, for
my emotional health, my physical health.
I'm not trying to lose 20 pounds, right?
Right.
Like, I really just want to be
in the best shape of my life.
Like every year
when I write down my goals, it's
as being the best shape of your life.
And I, I'm there.
Like,
I mean, I can be in better, but I'm good.
I love that.
So I think, as I always tell people, is
we could all drop dead tomorrow
and none of this matter.
If we're not living a life well lived.
Right. What do we do?
Yes, we're working 12 hours
and you're not loving it.
It seems like a big waste of time.
Life is not something
that we're supposed to get through.
Like all these weekend warriors.
Like when people are like,
it's Wednesday, it's almost the weekend.
I'm like, but what am I getting hit
by a bus on Thursday?
Right?
I'm not waiting for the weekend.
All these burned out people who are
waiting till September to go on vacation.
Like you're going to drop down in August,
but you go on vacation.
So I just think we have to remind people
the were built for joy.
Yeah.
We and and so many,
so many people are living for the weekend.
And how many times do you say to people.
That's why we don't say it.
We say what's good when we meet people.
What's good today
forces them to rewire their brain
to what's good as opposed
to, well, how are you doing today?
Oh, same old, same old.
Another day, another dollar.
You hear that all the time?
Yeah. You hear that? No. There.
No the dollar.
But when we say what's good
today, tell me something good.
Something.
They have to stop in their tracks, right?
They do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me think about this.
How's your day?
Seven. Well, we make it to ten.
I like that, I like that that is tonight.
Yeah.
How are you? You're going to get fine.
Verses one through ten.
How's life right now? Right.
Living the dream.
Yeah.
So Michael what advice would you give us
for the title of the,
you know of this show.
That would be clickbait.
Oh nice question I like that
the adventure of quick clickbait
I love it.
How would you come up with a whole.
About it.
There's got to be a good title
because,
you know, when you were doing it, people,
I don't think
their attention spans were this short
because it's just coming at you. Yes.
Go on YouTube. Things keep popping up.
I go to look at one thing and then I'm
looking at, oh, the third one down.
And then I've actually turned off my phone
thinking,
oh my God, I didn't look at what I wanted
to look at, you know.
So it's it's wild.
It's a wild, wild West freezy out there
now that's why I got in early.
Yeah, yeah, I was a top
ten YouTuber with 100,000 subscribers.
There weren't
many people doing this right.
And that's where I think around 2013,
I started getting just, like,
irritated by all of it.
And I felt like I jokingly said
I was going
to a liberal arts college
and suddenly I'm at UMass Amherst.
I'm like, I didn't want this.
Like I wanted
a smaller college experience.
So like the Andrew
that was so small and Nisha delightful.
I remember the day all the celebrities
joined Twitter and we were all like.
He was so fun until they got him.
Oh, now Michael, now what is
what is your advice for us?
You got out back about 2009 ten.
We're in this business in 2026
and it's crowded out there.
There's podcast everywhere.
What would be your advice for Joyce and I?
Because we just feel that there's
so much negativity out there and they
and they say good news doesn't sell.
I don't necessarily buy that
these days. Is that's good news.
I mean, you see those
those news Instagrams
where they're just sharing like the, the,
the the the blind conceding or the yeah,
the is getting the hearing aids or all.
I'm seeing all that. Me too. Yeah.
The content in the internet was,
I think, my advice to
anybody wants to again, you're not going
to be pleasing to everybody.
That can't be the goal, right? Right.
You know,
and it's almost like writing a book.
You're writing a book to your ideal reader
and one person.
It's one listener.
And the thing is, it's you because you're
making contact that you need to heed.
And here and you want to hear.
And so and you've got to keep
putting it out there.
You've got to be consistent.
You can't be discouraged by low
view counts because you can have a viral.
Oh yeah. I could take off. Yeah.
And the goal isn't to go viral.
The goal is to build a steady, engaged
audience
who wants to participate
and leave comments and share.
And that's something that I always remind
people.
You have to be very direct with
the audience and do the call to action.
Subscribe, share, tell your friends
you know it's not doing us letting go on.
Just share this with people, right?
I just enjoy the getting better.
Like, it's like any art form, right?
It's like you look back at
your first episodes and you might cringe
and you'll enjoy the getting better,
you know?
Yeah.
When cross-promotion thing is important,
you have to find other people,
have podcasts. There you go.
Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
And that's how people because they know
from What's Good podcast.
I mean, we're from this podcast.
And a lot of times people will hire
a podcasting marketing company, and
that's exactly what you'll pay them to do,
which is get you on other podcasts.
At some point you might want to do that.
That's a great piece of advice,
because the gentleman
who does our marketing,
one of the gentleman,
told us right in the beginning, I said,
what do we need to know
about being successful with the podcast?
He says the most important thing
is to be consistent.
Like you said, be disciplined.
Get the content out there
each and every day
because that even trumps talent in
so many ways.
Just getting the message out
and do something every single day
to move it forward
because most people lose their motivation.
Yeah.
Did you do the audience doesn't know
when you're going to post next.
Why would they follow you if they know
you're going to post every day at 4 p.m.
or 6 p.m.,
they build up that expectancy, right?
And then they build it into their routine.
I don't like following someone
if I don't know if they're going to post
three weeks from now, tomorrow.
There is something about
for your own discipline,
but also for your audience expectation
that you are posting. Yes.
And consistently well.
We post our show once a week,
but we have clips running all week long.
So stories reels.
Yeah,
but they might just get that right.
Right, right, right. 30s.
Oh, who are these two?
I'd like to invest more time
by them in the future. Wow.
That's great.
Michael, you you have been fabulous.
You know, we really have. Yeah.
I love talking about myself.
Well,
I can't wait to do a remote podcast
from Michael's house in Colorado.
Road trip?
Thank you.
I appreciate you having.
Yeah.
Well,
Michael, many, many blessings to you.
And thank you for all the good you've done
and continue to do.
Michael, love you, love you.
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